Calm is not always comforting. When you have lived in survival mode, quiet can feel like a threat, your mind can get louder as the room gets still, and “peace” can feel like something reserved for other people. We sit down with Ann as she shares updates on her writing and then reads a striking excerpt from her memoir Loving Differently, built around one core idea: peace is not dramatic, and it is not something you perform on command.
Ann walks us through the moment a respected pastor asked, “Why don’t you pray?” and how her body shut down. We unpack why freezing under pressure can be a protective nervous system response, not a spiritual failure, especially when neurodivergence and prayer anxiety collide with shame and the fear of not knowing the script. The conversation also names the reality of religious trauma and church abuse, including how spiritual language can be used to cross boundaries and confuse safety with obedience. If you have ever felt judged in faith spaces, or like you had to look “good” to belong, this will land.
From there, we move into what healing looks like in real life: changing people, places, and things, noticing patterns, setting boundaries, and stepping away from chaos that feels familiar. Ann explores trauma bonding, the hidden cost of relationships that keep wounds open, and why choosing peace can feel like loss before it feels like relief. A final story about saying “no” to a house that seemed like security drives home the theme: peace does not live in a building, a performance, or someone else’s approval.
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