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Our Kids Belong Here: A Conversation for Families and Systems That Serve Neurodivergent Kids Part 2

Temple Grandin endorsed Katie's Book: Your Kids Belong Here

Your child isn’t “too much,” they’re navigating a world that keeps narrowing what counts as normal. We sit down again with author and law professor Katie Rose Pryal to talk about neurodiversity, autism, ADHD, and the hidden cost of masking, especially for kids who learn early that survival means performing. Katie shares a powerful reframe she uses at home: “social acting” as protection, not self-erasure, plus concrete supports like counseling and journaling that help kids process what’s hard without carrying it alone.

We also get honest about school systems that confuse compliance with intelligence. Standardized testing, noisy classrooms, rigid schedules, and grading curves can make capable neurodivergent students feel broken. Katie unpacks why accommodations are not lowered expectations, why report cards can hide disability, and how families can use tools like executive function coaching, alternative schooling, and IEP knowledge to secure access. If you’ve ever walked into a meeting and felt outnumbered, we talk about your right to bring an advocate and your right not to sign what you don’t agree with.

Then we go where parents live every day: bullying. We cover what to do when a young child suddenly refuses school, why listening without reacting builds trust, and what research shows about adult complicity when neurodivergent kids are targeted. We zoom out to the bigger fight too: scarce resources that turn families, teachers, and communities into enemies while budgets get cut upstream.

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