What happens when the kids leave the nest—and suddenly, it’s just the two of you again?

In this honest and deeply relatable episode, we talk about the bittersweet beauty of launching your children into the world… and the unexpected emotional aftermath that follows. Even when it's a happy milestone, this transition can be harder than we ever imagined. Our guest opens up about navigating the empty nest phase with her husband, Ernie, and how they had to rediscover each other after years of parenting.

From watching her own parents' beautifully simple division of roles to asking, “How do you even do this?”—this episode is filled with wisdom, laughter, and the quiet truth that every relationship must evolve with each new season.

If you're figuring out life after kids, this conversation is for you.

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